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		<title>A better way to build a stucco fence or screeen wall</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the southwest, stucco walls are constructed with a concrete beam or footer for a foundation.  Then a cinder block wall is built on top of that.  The excavation for the footer is labor intensive if heavy equipment can&#8217;t be &#8230; <a href="https://harveylacey.com/wordpress/?p=214">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the southwest, stucco walls are constructed with a concrete beam or footer for a foundation.  Then a cinder block wall is built on top of that.  The excavation for the footer is labor intensive if heavy equipment can&#8217;t be used.  The cinder block wall must be built by experienced masons or any flaws will show up in the finished product after the stucco finish is applied.<img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-215" title="stucco-wall-rendering-3-jpeg" src="http://harveylacey.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/stucco-wall-rendering-3-jpeg.jpg" alt="stucco-wall-rendering-3-jpeg" width="640" height="336" /></p>
<p>I propose a different way of doing it using pipe posts, proprietary brackets, standard four inch C purlins, and expanded metal fine enough for use as a lathe screen.</p>
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<p>The pipe posts are set in concrete footers.  Then the standard four inch purlins are placed using our brackets and standard self tapping tek screws.<span id="more-214"></span></p>
<p>The brackets slide over two inch (2 3/8&#8243; O.D.) pipe.  The brackets are held in place with a special clip and self tapping screw combination.  This is a picture of a straight through bracket being installed to frame a metal building.</p>
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<p>There are three basic brackets.  The one above for straight runs connecting posts in a straight line.</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-220" title="jim-inmans-picture-of-brackets-2" src="http://harveylacey.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/jim-inmans-picture-of-brackets-2.bmp" alt="jim-inmans-picture-of-brackets-2" /></p>
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<p>For the ends and corners we have right and left brackets.</p>
<p>The standard 1 1/2&#8243; X 4&#8243; C purlins fit over the brackets and are attached with self tapping screws.</p>
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<p>The expanded metal/lathe material would then be attached to the C purlins with self tapping sheet metal screws.  The stucco finish would then be applied per standard practices.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have any pictures of a completed stucco finish wall.  That&#8217;s because those kinds of walls aren&#8217;t built here where I live in north Texas.  Here we have gumbo clay, also known as expansive soil.  The ground here moves swimming pools, home foundations, and retaining walls.  Fences don&#8217;t stand a chance and a stucco finished one would break up in one season without the post holes going into limestone and the fence suspended above the ground.</p>
<p>I originally came up with this product to enable someone unable to weld to build a metal framed building easily.  The fence man part of me saw building a metal screen wall with the system could be easily done by a competent do-it-yourselfer or a minimally experienced fence crew.  Since I was born and raised in Arizona and then moved to California the stucco fence idea was a natural.</p>
<p>The advantages of the system are many. </p>
<p>First there&#8217;s the fudge factor built in with the brackets.  The cuts don&#8217;t have to be ninety degrees necessarily and they can be up to two inches shorter than the optimal measurement without compromising the integrity of the connections.  This is true when framing up a metal building or building a stucco fence with the system.</p>
<p>There are no mitre cuts required.  All the cuts made on the purlins can be made with a chop saw, a portable band saw, a Sawsall, or even a cutting torch.   All the cuts are ninety degrees more or less, close is good enough because the end and corner brackets move around the post and can be placed at any angle to accomodate change of direction in the fence line.</p>
<p>The footer or concrete for the posts is more critical with the stucco than that required for wood or wire fencing because stucco is concrete and won&#8217;t tolerate much movement.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re now setting up to produce and market the brackets.  We hope to have pricing and product availability soon.</p>
<p>Here are some pictures of a horse barn being framed with the system.</p>
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		<title>A Better Way to Make a Barn or Shed</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[  I&#8217;ve been building small barns and loafing sheds with four inch C purlins oriented horizontally instead of vertically for about ten years now. My reasons for framing like this instead of the conventional way of welding the purlins vertically &#8230; <a href="https://harveylacey.com/wordpress/?p=179">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve been building small barns and loafing sheds with four inch C purlins oriented horizontally instead of vertically for about ten years now.</p>
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<p>My reasons for framing like this instead of the conventional way of welding the purlins vertically to the posts involve simplicity of construction and adding strength to the structure.</p>
<p>With the purlins welded to the face of the pipe the strength of the purlin duplicates the strength provided by the metal sheeting.  The purlin and the sheeting are weaker inside-outside than they are up and down in this configuration.  So when we orient the purlin horizontally we make the wall much stronger inside outside.</p>
<p>We also provide a place to attach material to finish out the interior of the shed or barn.  I can&#8217;t emphasize the importance of interior finish out in a horse stall enough.  The worst possible thing that can happen in a horse stall is for the horse to kick or paw through metal siding.  When they pull their leg back in invariably they cut it so severely they have to be put down.<span id="more-179"></span></p>
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<p>Since I&#8217;m a weldor fabricating a building this way was easy.  I would set my posts and then measure center to center spacing for drilling my purlins.  I would then drill the purlins with a two and a half inch hole saw.  I would slide purlins down the posts and weld them into place.</p>
<p>The four inch wall means that if a room is be insulated the rolls of pink stuff works great and is available anywhere.  It also means doors can be purchased at the local lumber yard and then put in the same way a door is put in a stick framed building.  There&#8217;s no need to pay three times as much for a door frame that can be welded in when a standard pre-hung door can be installed.</p>
<p>Here are some pictures of finishing out a tack room with the pipe and horizontal purlin framing.  This building was built with the connector system we&#8217;re trying to patent.  But it can be built the same way without the connectors if you can cut in and weld.</p>
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